Curse

toastgodsupreme · Apr 11, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

It's just so hard to enjoy it. I've gotten one up to 20, unlocked a vast amount of skills, played through much of NF and Factions with it, and still don't find it much fun.

I feel like the class doesn't really excel at anything (Splinter/Barrage doesn't count because mobs in typical pve don't bunch up into groups of 3+ for more than a few seconds).

The minion build is weak because micomanaging 8+ minions is a pain and heroes do it far better. Not to mention the joy it is to recast 3x 10 energy buffs every minute.

Going support isn't fun because my heals lack compared to monks (seriously, who can go up against an HB monk?).

My weapon skills have me constantly watching the red bars instead of the battle.

My spirits can't be controlled (ie. can't lock them onto a specific target). And for the energy cost, time in summoning, and stationary factors, you'd think they'd give us a bit more control over them.

My damage is elemental (channeling = lightning) and thus anything with decent armor just laughs it off (why are there so many ranger mobs everywhere in the game?).

My class' primary attribute, Spawning, feels like a weak joke.
In fact, most of the main builds I see (outside of SS builds) don't even touch spawning. That just goes to show how useless our primary attribute is when the main builds for the class ignore it completely. You'd laugh at a sin without crit strikes, an ele with no energy storage, a mesmer without fast casting, etc. But you see a Rit build with little to no spawning (maybe as a dump stat), and no one gives it a second thought.

I really want to enjoy this class. I've read the guides, the builds presented aren't terribly fun. And it seems we're locked into like, 4 or 5 popular builds and can't do anything else.

And to be honest, I would never bring a Rt/* into a pug when I have the option of choosing another class. It's like Rits weren't meant to be a primary at all.
N/Rt heal better than Rt/* (and with energy management from soul reaping and Signet of Lost Souls, they win).
R/Rt do better sustained damage than Rt/R (runes, better armor, etc).
E/Rt can spam weapon spells and the like all day thanks to high energy levels.

Outside of a few cool animations, and some really neat armor, I can't justify keeping my Rt/*.

Nanood · Apr 11, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Sounds like you should delete it then and play something else. That's why it's called YOUR copy. Cause you get to do whatever you want with it. No-one else can make it fun and I'm sure you are going to hear a lot of people saying how much they love their Rits.. Like me.

horseradish · Apr 11, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

If you can't see how valuable a Rit is, delete it.

No one's forcing you to play. It's your game, play something you're good at. We don't need anymore Rit scrubs

Lhim · Apr 11, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

I'm sorry, but I can't see what we're supposed to discuss about. You say you find no enjoyment in playing a Ritualist. Ok, if you don't like to play the Ritualist class, go and delete it or make it a mule.

Antithesis · Apr 11, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

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Originally Posted by toastgodsupreme

N/Rt heal better than Rt/* (and with energy management from soul reaping and Signet of Lost Souls, they win).
R/Rt do better sustained damage than Rt/R (runes, better armor, etc).
E/Rt can spam weapon spells and the like all day thanks to high energy levels.

wrong, wrong and wrong.

Try [skill=text]Offering of Spirit[/skill], you can spam channel and resto spells 'til the cows come home at higher attributes than N or E.
With [skill=text]Spirit's Strength[/skill] you can lay down serious armor-ignoring smack with any martial weapon, take a Spear for some fun animations.

There's nothing wrong with the Rt, run decent builds and they'll rock your socks.

X El Queso Grande X · Apr 11, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Yeah, I agree with what others are saying. If you don't like your Rit, delete it or invest some time into changing your playstyle. I agree that there are 4 or 5 cookie-cutter builds out there for Rits; but the great thing about them is their jack-of-all-trades nature. Whether you use Offering of Spirit or Spirit's Strength, Rits can be really useful. Unfortunately most PUG's devalue them as kinda useless (those people are clearly noobs lol).

I guess looking at the redbars more than dmg on the opponents is common for me too; but maybe that's the point. Maybe you're supposed to look at both? I dunno, this is just my 2 cents.

Loco roco · Apr 11, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

i had a similar problem with my derv, i spent more than a 100k trying to get skills+armours to make it fun >.<, he completed nf, faction, and eotn and got 1/2 through proph,but it never was. i ended delting him and made a para, which i love to play with.

Antithesis · Apr 11, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

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Originally Posted by Loco roco

i had a similar problem with my derv, i spent more than a 100k trying to get skills+armours to make it fun >.<, he completed nf, faction, and eotn and got 1/2 through proph,but it never was. i ended delting him and made a para, which i love to play with.

Avatars get real old real quick. I've managed to extract some fun from a D/P Ebon Dust Blindbot and D/R Vow of Strength Beastmaster.

Not my favourite class either, but it's a good idea to have one for UW/FoW farming, or running.

Alex the Great · Apr 11, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

i have great fun on my rit with splinter, ancestors, spirit rift, life, mend body and soul, spirit light, and OFFERING OF SPIRIT (no joke, it alows me to spam all my skills without really ever runniny out of energy)

Ashe. · Apr 12, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16

Oh God in all honesty since I've made my ritualist I've never had more fun playing this game. I can't really explain why either since I'm running the basic splinter/ar build.

street peddler · Apr 12, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

lol whats the point of this thread, you dont like being a rit, ok then.

Rits are all support, if you dont like to be support, be a melee class.

Dr Strangelove · Apr 12, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

I wish I wanted to play anything but my rit in PvE.

Xiooua · Apr 12, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

I wish I wanted to play anything but my rit in PvE.

Haha, I know right?

Whenever I'm not playing my Rit I can't help but think how much more useful I'd be if I were on my Rit.

To the OP: delete your Rit then I guess? No one here can change how you feel about the class. Maybe it's just not the right fit for you.

Shadowmere · Apr 12, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

Not really sure what the logic behind making this thread was, we're not gonna give you some magical advice that'll suddenly have you enjoying your rit. Sounds like you've tried a lot of stuff on your rit and "still don't really enjoy it".

I have one question, did you ever enjoy playing the rit? Seems to me there comes a point when you realize either you enjoy playing the class or you don't, if it's the latter either keep the char around as a mule or ditch it.

And if you did truely enjoy your rit for a while then perhaps you're just geting a bit bored with it, maybe go play a different class for awhile. As much as I love my Necro I do get bored with MM-ing, and SS spamming, times like that I go and play some of my other characters (my rit is of course my choice right after my necro

) it's a nice change of pace and it keeps the game intersting. (just wish anet didn't make the HoM force us to invest all our efforts into one char

I like playing all my different characters!)

Geishe · Apr 12, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

I wish I wanted to play anything but my rit in PvE.

Yes yes yes!

Like the others said, if you don't like, then go ahead and delete... it's not the profession for you, which is fine. Supports just not your thing.

Age · Apr 12, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Well it is certainly not broken and if you don't want to group with it go farm with it.I would say though that Rits are far better at healing Sins than Monks they are better for Warriors.Rits are good verses Sins and how can you be to bored of it when I am still having problems with The Glacial Griffon.

It is your choice make it wise I did play Rit. for awhile and it was enjoyable.It sat at The ----- Grove mission for 2 Months when most were in NF.

Yuhe Ji · Apr 12, 2008, 06:55 AM // 06:55

Well I find my rit very fun to play. But that's just me. If I get bored of support, I can go 330 farm or splinter barrage or spirit spam (it's been a while since I did that last one though).

Bargamer · Apr 12, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

There really is no need to micromanage your minions once EOTN came out. Replace Death Nova with Putrid Bile, some other damage spell with Necrosis, get a Enchants Mod for your Staff for when you need to refresh your Enchantments. And make your Necro Hero do the micro, he's better at it. Give him Barbs too, LOL.

spirit of defeat · Apr 13, 2008, 02:23 PM // 14:23

I'm Rt all the time, IMO the class with the most variety .

Tyla · Apr 13, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Ancestors' Rage and Splinter Weapon are reason enough to play a Ritualist.
Sure they look better on Rangers or whatever, but you think about it yourself, YOU get to be the Damage / Heal hybrid the Monk never was.

Protective Was Kaolai is currently one of the strongest party heals in the game, and you also have access to unremovable buffs, like Weapon of Warding.

Use Paragon heroes, or Ranger heroes (BHA, with Volley, and Epidemic if you feel like microing, macros make this job easier by miles).

And a little side-note about your avatar...Powdeeeeeeeeeeeeerrred Toaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!